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Year 8 Day 97 1:34	System wide Interdiction
Ralgarrch	The GE's latest GNS post has reminded me to ask what exactly the admin intend to do when the GE has enough interdictors to shut a system down before combat? Interdiction shouldn't even be active before theres a way to retaliate, of course that wasn't listened to when it was implemented however I think it's about time it was. ____________

Year 8 Day 97 12:36	System wide Interdiction
Riax Tardes	It may not be a good place to talk about this, but there was a suggestion about "cross space" similar to "cross terrain". Even with combat, it shouldn't be possible to shut down the space. I mean, a ship should be able to escape from the interdictor by flying in sublight. Edited By: Riax Tardes on Year 8 Day 97 12:58

Year 8 Day 97 13:02	System wide Interdiction
Xerf Kathliss	Right. There should be a place where inderdictor's fields is no longer able to block your lightspeed. And you should bo able to go there by sublight.

Year 8 Day 97 14:03	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	we could also creat an area were opposing gravity fields cancel each other out. I learned this in physics, between the moon and the earth there is a space were the two gravity fields cancel each other out creating true zero-G. We could creat something along that line, for all gravity fields, or for the interdictor gravity field specifically.

Year 8 Day 97 15:50	System wide Interdiction
Phryss	This discussion should take place in the Suggestions forum. ____________ *I dare you to make less sense.* Are you a newbie, or do you have access to newbies?

Year 8 Day 97 19:42	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	Yes but how will the admins handle this? I think it would be hardly fair for people to be trapped ina system for months on end. All an interdictor needs is for the pilot to be on board the craft for the generator to be active. It wouldnt be difficult for the GE to have a pilot onboard the vessel for months on end.

Year 8 Day 97 20:35	System wide Interdiction
Phryss	The question itself, "can an entire system be interdicted" is fine. The speculation and discussion and "why don't we do this" doesn't belong in the problem centre. ____________ *I dare you to make less sense.* Are you a newbie, or do you have access to newbies?

Year 8 Day 98 1:57
Almar Zamasee	Deleted by Syn. Reason: Wrong forum.

Year 8 Day 98 6:58	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	So how will the Admins handle this? will they allow high traffic systems, or spawning systems to be interdicted by the GE?

Year 8 Day 98 8:22	System wide Interdiction
Tyr DeMeer	nothing planned right now, when the day comes the GE can do that and combat is not here it will be looked at again. May it be to disable the feature for the moment or change the re-charging times which allows how long they can use the grav wells or similiar. But basically there is not enough coder resources to bother about this now. Like it or not but thats the situation. ____________

Year 8 Day 98 13:32	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	we understand, but perhaps you could come up with a punishment for the GE should they attempt such a think? something that would make them think really hard before they attempted something? What would be good now is a severe punishment for any system blockade attempt, so that it wont happen and Admins can focus on coding. This should be a serious matter, a punishment, something clear and precise now, instead of a long drawn out argument later that would sap morale and take admins away from coding.

Year 8 Day 98 13:43	System wide Interdiction
Tyr DeMeer	maybe I was not clear enough? That day that sorrow, it is very unlikely that it would create a situation with lots of bitching, which people tend to like. Afterall the "worst" thing that can happen is that someone will not be able to enter hyperspace for x days. They won?t die, they won?t loose assets or anything. ____________

Year 8 Day 98 14:04	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	Factions wont be able to move stuff in or out, people who spawn will be trapped in system, the GE can easily keep a pilot on an interdictor for months on end, and if such a transgression occurs there is no way the admins can restore a faction to were it would be if that incident didn't occur. That is why I am asking if the Admins have any punishment for the GE so that we don't have to worry about it at all. Better to stop something bad from happening before it happens, if only for peace of mind. Edited By: Voligne Archon on Year 8 Day 98 14:06

Year 8 Day 98 14:44	System wide Interdiction
Ralgarrch	Shutting down an entire system can potentially be damaging to the activities of a faction, for instance when the RA is trying to capture GE systems and the haulers can't leave to collect more materials. As Voligne points out you can't really repair the damage caused by the unfair advantage after it's happened. Personally I think it's common sense that you try to avoid uproars instead of dealing with them when they occur, at least when there this damn predictable. Were fully aware the admin are very busy however it's for exactly this reason that it can't be dealt with when it happens, taking time to fix it now is better then taking time whilst it's causing problems. Theres no need to piss around with make do solutions, just switch it off until combat, something that should be relatively simple code wise. It should never have been allowed in the first place till then anyway. Also it doesn't need to be done instantly, it can just be put on someones to do list and be done before the GE completes more interdictors. ____________

Year 8 Day 98 15:20	System wide Interdiction
Oilios Katastrefor	i agree with demeer. we don't have enough coders to worry about a potential problem that might occur in the future. also the empire knows what will happen if they try this, and maybe they'll still do it anyway, but then they'll have to worry about the possible solution. it will take quite a bit to shut down a system. and as for comments about it not being released till combat... well lets be honest, that may be nice, but plenty of other features that shouldn't be released till combat (if at all) are out there, and this is just a small insignificant hting not worth bothering about.

Year 8 Day 98 15:53	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	What do you mean what will happen? I asked Tyr for at least a punishment for a transgression. Tyr hasn't given any form of punishment.

Year 8 Day 98 16:01	System wide Interdiction
Tyr DeMeer	thats because I am not going to state any punishment not for something that is within displayed rules, which is a coded feature and so on. I thought that was kind of obvious. and as I said, haulers stuck or what not, the timeframe we are talking about here is a day or so before its detected. ____________

Year 8 Day 98 16:16	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	Ok, but if the GE will not but punished for locking down entire systems, wouldnt they just turn it back on, or go back to the system as soon as they were removed? This is a coded function for which nothing can be done to prevent short of admin intervention. I would think the admins would want less work and do something now then have to move interdictors around every other day. This may be a small matter but it could keep cropping up over and over. No one but the GE or an admin can do anything about it should the GE decided to see how many times they can lock down a system before they get a small slap on the wrist for being annoying.

Year 8 Day 98 16:24	System wide Interdiction
Hal Breden	Voligne, what makes you assume that it's an action worthy of punishment? Or any attention at all? If it's something that is occuring commonly, or at length, then in all probability the worst that will happen is that gravity generators will be given a maximum duration and a fire delay. I really wouldn't expect more than that... ever. ____________ "May the Grace of Ara go with you, and His Vengeance be wrought upon your enemies." Only fools and children dream of heroes.

Year 8 Day 98 17:48	System wide Interdiction
Voligne Archon	eh, whatever I still think it is an issue that needs to be delt with, but whatever I give. Lets see what happens :)

Year 8 Day 98 20:19	System wide Interdiction
Hal Breden	Your opinion is noted. The Rules Team Director disagrees, and the Admin have (so far) declined to comment. So yes, we will see what happens. ____________ "May the Grace of Ara go with you, and His Vengeance be wrought upon your enemies." Only fools and children dream of heroes.

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