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Year 14 Day 42 6:55	Cybernetics
Dru Snotz	Thanks Coran! ____________

Year 14 Day 42 8:20	Cybernetics
Ellias Aubec	Uh, there is a rules page that answers most of your questions, and will be updated as the rules are finalised as well. As for number of implants, I'm not sure it has been covered, but I'd guess that you'd be able to get one of each area - forgive me if Kyle has stated that you are limited to one, I must of missed that. As for taking up slots, no. From what I understand, it will just use hidden slots of some description. ____________

Year 14 Day 42 9:04	Cybernetics
Coran Flayd	Actually it says it on the Cybernetic Operations rule page at the top of the article, Ellias. ^_^. It mentions one installed at any one time. So in order to get a different one you would have to have the first one uninstalled first. By the way, has it been discussed how cybernetics will affect force sensitives?

Year 14 Day 42 17:27	Cybernetics
Ellias Aubec	Hmm. And yes, cybernetics won't affect FS at the moment. ____________

Year 14 Day 43 7:22	Cybernetics
Zao Nephalem	... and shouldn't, .... I mean, Darth Vader people. ____________ Reek Havoc and let loose the Hogs of War

Year 14 Day 43 7:56	Cybernetics
Mesh`la Daryc	Because a cybernetic force user who was severely hampered in the force because of it is an argument against cybernetics affecting FS why? ____________

Year 14 Day 43 10:19	Cybernetics
Zao Nephalem	he was hampered? I must watch those movies again.... I did't read any of the books, so ........ my knowledge is limited, I'll admit. ____________ Reek Havoc and let loose the Hogs of War

Year 14 Day 43 10:45	Cybernetics
Coran Flayd	For the most part the strength of their powers are heavily dependant on their facets. From this point not only are all their abilities weakened they will also have the negative effects of the cybernetics. Basically, they will lose more than they gain overall unlike anyone else that has such things done. Now this one understands that such things as artificial arms and legs would weaken force sensitivity as it did with Vader considering they are replacing body parts that hold midichlorians. Though what about the Cyborg units? From what this one can tell from the images and various other things they do not replace body parts so would not affect ones force abilities as they are attached rather than replace something. Overall, if it did affect FS it would have to be balanced. Meaning different cybernetics would effect FS differently depending on how much is replaced. Or at least not to the great extent this one has read before when it came to cybernetics from various other threads. An example would be Vader, pre-suit, would have had facet values of 100 while suit Vader would of had 60. And that was with over half his body replaced and a lot of cybernetics as well as major damage to rest of his body. It would be in the books Zao. That is the only place that ever outright says he became weaker. The movies implied it considering he was obsessed with gaining control of the Empire and planned to kill the Emperor before his "accident" and after it he never did so until the whole thing with Luke.

Year 14 Day 43 14:23	Cybernetics
Zao Nephalem	That actually makes sense now-thank you ____________ Reek Havoc and let loose the Hogs of War

Year 14 Day 45 1:16	Cybernetics
Tenebrosi Umbra	I have a question regarding cybernetics: A) Will there be more cybernetics created, or is what there is now the only one's to be released. I.E - (To my eyes) cybernetics are also a way to enhance yourself because you cant carry everything - so being able to upgrade your vision cyberneticly (Macrobinoculars or Thermal Goggles, or even both?) is a slot saver that you could then use to equip something else... B) If A gets accepted than an increase in the maximum cybernetics allowed, but only 1 skill enhancer C) Its seems a bit weird for me that cybernetics reduce skills. They are an upgrade of knowledge not a complete replacement of the knowledge you gain. I understand the need for balance and so I suggest: - Having a vulnerability to Ion damage that increases with each cybernetic, say having another HP pool that if depleted then means that the cybernetics break down and need to be repaired (by a medical faction and a technician for the technical aspects) - A maximum of cybernetics that could be added, and irregardless of the amount only 1 skill enhancer (too much nowledge implants would overload your mind) - FS decrease partaining to the amount of cybernetics and the placement of them. - The cost of the surgery as well the risk factor (although you should always be able to remove cybernetics irregardless of whether they fail or not) Other than that - well done, I cant wait for this to come out. It will really add another layer of fun and depth to this game. ____________ ...Every one's got some serious dirt in their history, ma'am . In the days of the Old Republic, we Mandalorians wiped out at least one sentient species just to prove that we could— the Cathar. Are we ashamed of that? I hope so...

Year 14 Day 45 8:22	Cybernetics
Syn	This isn't the suggestions forum and I believe there is already a suggestion thread for cybernetics open. That said, they will not decrease FS, and they are not finalized yet--the current set of rules is a starting point, so they may yet be adjusted, rebalanced, and/or added to prior to actual implementation. ____________

Year 14 Day 45 9:55	Cybernetics
Tenebrosi Umbra	The thread in the suggestion forum was closed... As to your comment - I was just asking a few questions, and since I hate it when people only complain without trying to fix things, I gave some ideas that I think would work. In no way did I mean for it to become a suggestion, just wanted to float some ideas out there... ____________ ...Every one's got some serious dirt in their history, ma'am . In the days of the Old Republic, we Mandalorians wiped out at least one sentient species just to prove that we could— the Cathar. Are we ashamed of that? I hope so...

Year 14 Day 45 14:05	Cybernetics
Christian Hall	“ they will not decrease FS, ” Is that an official, final word on the matter kind of statement?

Year 14 Day 45 17:29	Cybernetics
Maha Michi	There is a Cybernetics suggestion thread, but it is closed. http://www.swcombine.com/forum/thread.php?thread=58849&page=1 I'd vote for FS to be decreased if you have cybernetics added. Vader was known to have his FS decreased because of his installed cybernetics/implants. ____________

Year 14 Day 46 8:45	Cybernetics
Syn	“Is that an official, final word on the matter kind of statement? ” Barring any unforeseen future changes, as always. Slim chance though. ____________

Year 14 Day 55 14:55	Cybernetics
Elif Ban	I noticed that the combat cybernetics has been changed. Previously it was +3 for both Non projectile and Projectile. Now there are two combat cybernetics one called range that +2 for projectile and one called close combat that is +2 for non projectile. So the questions are: Will R&D allow: 1. The +3 again. 2. Will there be a combat cybernetic that contains both non projectile and projectile (at +3)? Edited By: Elif Ban on Year 14 Day 58 14:13 ____________ Mishuk gotal'u meshuroke, pako kyore Pressure makes gems, ease makes decay

Year 14 Day 56 11:53	Cybernetics
Mastema Grim	In regards to removing the implants I wouldnt see that as a great idea. Think about it semi-realistacly. Those implant are taking up space that wasnt there before. Like the implants that directly interact with the brain. If you remove that implant then you have a sizeable hole in your head ontop of some possible brain damage which could easily be made out as another skill loss but still. In regards to implementing an Ionic style bar. That seems like a bad idea. Imagine your in a fire fight and some random blaster shot pokes out one of your eyes. ____________ Captain of the Action VI Freighter Grims Ferry

Year 14 Day 58 23:46	Cybernetics
Christian Hall	So I was looking at the equation for the cost of cybernetics. And the only problem I had was trying to discern this part: * pow(skill, -0.04) + So.... So what does this mean?

Year 14 Day 59 1:29	Cybernetics
April Woods	skill raised to the power of -0.04 EDIT: Skill = 1; pow(skill, -0.04) = 1 Skill = 2; pow(skill, -0.04) = 0,9726549474 Skill = 3; pow(skill, -0.04) = 0,957007078 Skill = 4; pow(skill, -0.04) = 0,9460576467 Skill = 5; pow(skill, -0.04) = 0,937650954 Skill = 6; pow(skill, -0.04) = 0,9308376691 if I'm not wrong Edited By: April Woods on Year 14 Day 59 1:46

Year 14 Day 59 3:59	Cybernetics
Ellias Aubec	Wow, what was wrong with using (skill^-0.04) I wonder. ____________

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