“Sarcasm from Jastan, another member of The Ashla Covenant. Works SO well in written form. Ignorance and willful blindness of the Golden Rule's application aren't good arguments here, except to the extent they go towards whether you fall into the categories of intentional abuser, unintentional exploiter, or someone who just doesn't pay attention to their falling membership numbers.
- "Kay Dalban"
Right, I wanted to remove myself from this discussion. However I want to set a few records straight.
1. Even if I weren't in The Ashla Covenant. I would've still kept the same stance on this situation as I did now. People can't force others to stay active or in a faction, people can have crudy recruitment months and people can try their hardest to play by the rules yet still be demonized by staff, as is quite apparent in this topic (*cough cough* Kay).
2. There is no willful blindness or ignorance. I mean I swear to god I see someone else in the Sim News topic say this..
“I had the active member count at the time of purchase which is all I believe I needed. I don't remember any stipulation at the time of purchase saying g I had to maintain those numbers.
- "Lorenzas Atticus"
So no.. the Rules were quite open to interpretation. Some people actually thought that the status quo before this was the intended system. I too thought this to be the case.
3. Kay, your black and white view of the world, and in that regard the rules of this game, is the biggest kind of ignorance and, though it's enviable to keep such a simple look on matters, does not help one bit.
There are genuinely factions out there like TAC Who didn't break rules on purpose and/or with the fullest intent, who didn't abuse the system and who didn't do it with nothing but dollar signs in their eyes. So I can definitely understand Jastan's angry sarcasm on the matter.
Also Dan Hakim, read back. Have there been any "oh I didn't realise I lost 10+ members"? have there been any whining that we haven't broken a rule? No. A rule was broken. That is certain, though not intentionally and not with abusive intent. Just simple lack of new members and people being people, living their own lives.
I wanted to stay out of this discussion from my last post on out... But I feel that by taking such a simple and blind black and white approach to it all you are all missing the exact point the SWCombine Golden Rule brings out.
"Use the Combine features in the spirit in which they have been designed. Don't try to exploit the features, use your common sense when using them. Ask yourself what is the purpose of the feature you are using and as such, what is the normal use for it. Abuses will be punished."
To me it says: take the rules as guidelines. Mostly because both for abuse and non-abuse you can not put every single rule and detail in there as real live and any community driven game will bring up situations where rules, laws and what they dictate do not bring the appropriate response. The golden rule itself, to me, states that the rules aren't all and that situations shouldn't be treated black and white and yet I see here two maybe three members of staff and another combiner do exactly that. Taking it as black and white.
Now. Rant over. Rip me a new one for my less than calm demeanor if you want to but it would only mean you have no actual response to the points I am bringing up.