::Forum - Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.

Year 13 Day 94 17:58	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Paparrin	Why cant we fly cross-terrain from anywhere in an unslabbed square as we do from the edge of the square? Some mountain squares would make sense, craters, etc, but not from sea or deserts for example. If its for gameplay I dont see it. Maybe it merits a revision?

Year 13 Day 94 18:02	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Jesfa	Because you'd be able to traverse an entire unslabbed planet in like an hour? Unless I'm misunderstanding your question, i don't see why you'd ever not have to go to the edge of a tile. ____________

Year 13 Day 94 18:26	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Tiali Bixa-Loca	Would still have to go through each slab, just can start from any square in the first slab instead of having to travel to the edge first (at least, that's how ah read his question) Specially seeing how we can go to any 8 of the adjoining slabs instead of having to cross-city/slab like you used to if you wanted to go the opposite slab

Year 13 Day 94 19:13	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Mikel von Bianchi	Why would it be an argument for terrain squares and not cities, given that travel time from surface square to surface square is the same regardless? ____________ [19:48] .Zhao> Items know they're inside me

Year 13 Day 95 2:49	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Paparrin	Jesfa. Because IRL, to travel interstate from a city today you first have to spend an hour or two escaping your city. That was the rationale I thought was being used for travel times: first escape city then floor it down. Also, you can travel from one edge of a city to a terrain opposite to it in that same hour, so that argument is kind of pointless. Avoiding people flee from battle so easily makes more sense, I just asked if it should be revised. Edited By: Paparrin on Year 13 Day 95 8:17

Year 13 Day 96 4:43	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Jesfa	My concern is that if I'm on the left edge of the map, I shouldn't be able to crossterrain to the terrain tile right, maybe a bug that it's possible, but it's not something that should be happening. Once a city slab is laid down, the speed your ship (vehicles too? Not sure) moves, is drastically reduced to symbolize the same thing you're talking about. Again, this is how it used to be, need to figure out if we purposely broke it (and why), or if there's a bug. ____________

Year 13 Day 96 5:15	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Tiali Bixa-Loca	So we are not supposed to go from (0, 0) in terrain square (3, 4) to (0, 0) in terrain square (4, 3) without travelling across (3, 4) first?

Year 13 Day 96 5:55	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Teyacapan Quetzalxochitl	It's not a bug that that's possible, it was intentionally altered.

Year 13 Day 96 7:04	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Ellias Aubec	^ It was changed when the travel code was updated. ____________

Year 13 Day 96 13:59	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Mikel von Bianchi	By Clarr, so it was probably just because he was too lazy to fix it correctly. I'd be all for reimplementing it. ____________ [19:48] .Zhao> Items know they're inside me

Year 13 Day 96 15:07	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Jesfa	Vey suggested I post it as a bug report, as to get it's attention to one of the coders. I hadn't realized before Dev that this was possible, would love to see it "fixed". ____________

Year 13 Day 97 0:33	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Paparrin	Thats like saying you are certain cities are adjacent to each other and not separated by vast amounts of empty land. I have heard arguments both ways. If they are separated it doesnt matter where you are in the outskirts of the city, you are pretty much at the same distance from any of the 8 cities around you. Its not even the issue I was trying to get cleared. :\

Year 13 Day 97 1:16	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Jesfa	It's the same/similar issue. The reasoning is you need to literally travel across the city, to get past. The fact that you didn't need to fly to the adjacent side before has been overlooked, and will be fixed. Whether there's vast land between cities or not, it doesn't really matter, you still have a city to navigate, or additional grass to cross. ____________

Year 13 Day 97 1:23	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Abyhsen Squeegor

Year 13 Day 97 3:40	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Vip Fortuna	That "bug" was indeed a feature for about one-and-a-half year, I guess. But it's nice to see that my stamp is still in use :-) ____________

Year 13 Day 97 5:02	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Abyhsen Squeegor	That's actually one of the first features Veynom showed me :)

Year 13 Day 97 16:52	Cross Terrain from unslabbed squares.
Til Shaedlaer	Hmm... If fixing this feature/bug/thing, perhaps it would be possible to uncap crossterrain and across the slab speeds? Both limits are a bit weird in my opinion - the crossterrain one especially, as from what I understand now using fastest speeders doesn't have much sense as they don't travel much faster than medium-fast ships unless traveling over unslabbed terrain... Normally you'd just ascend with anything with repulsors high enough to not scratch buildings and speed away... And even more so in the crossterrain... And I think those caps were partially introduced because of this 'feature' with not having to cross the slab (because without crossing the slab traveling across the ground was too quick) ____________

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